How does matrix compare to Kontalk?


A friend of mine recently told me that is gonna be “THE NEXT THING” because of open source, clients, etc.

Well I have no idea of how the things work but what’s your opinion for it? Is that true? If no, why, and if yes, what makes Kontalk better then?

(I don’t want to offend anyone.)


I guess you are referring to

In short, I believe Kontalk aims at simplicity in everyday communications, whereas Matrix is mostly aiming at team collaboration.

In my case, I use matrix through daily, to follow IRC and matrix channels that I participate in (one of them being #kontalk :wink: ). I have also reverted my family to use it for video/audio calls, instead of Skype, for which I have long waited for a decent alternative. It’s true that matrix has gained a lot of momentum. Last time I checked, encryption was still not the default option. Registering and connecting is not very simple. I don’t think it’s very user-friendly for everyday users, but my mom could use it fine after I initially set it up for her and explained the important buttons! It offers many bridges to other networks, which is good. I see it is improving fast and is actively developed.

At the same time, I use kontalk also daily to chat with friends and family. Kontalk is much easier to just download and start to use, as it is probably closer to what people are used to nowadays with messengers. And encryption is always turned on by default.

I keep stating this, but fwiw, I might be among the few that don’t see this antagonistically. It is great that nowadays compared to only a few years ago, we have many great solutions in terms of open source, encryption and easy of use in daily communications. Just pick the one that suits your needs best. I would argue that the next major challenge is decentralization and federation.

@OffifialMITX I don’t want to edit your post, so please change your title to something more appropriate, like ‘How does matrix compare to Kontalk?’ or ‘What are your thoughts on matrix?’ :slight_smile:


I agree with what @tetris4 said about having a lot of choice in this field, and that is great actually: it means that everything is evolving, even if it can seem like chaos at the beginning.

The problem with Kontalk is lack of platform support. It is true that the desktop client made possible to run Kontalk on any desktop platform, however integration with the mobile app still needs some improvements (e.g. message sync between clients and easier account migration from Android), and of course there is the almighty iOS problem. I believe that until Kontalk crosses that two bridges, it won’t get very far. I’m not saying I don’t have confidence in the project - I wouldn’t be here otherwise, I’ll continue to push it forward because I believe it’s a great project that can have a solid future.

EDIT: sorry a bit of off-topic because I should have talked about Matrix, I realize that now :smiley:


I also wouldn’t say that one could replace the other; they have different aims. I personally use Kontalk for private conversations with family members and close friends, while Matrix mainly serves as a massive group chat service for my purposes ( ), like IRC, but with message history.


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